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		<title>Comment on 9-3 2000MY Grille ASS for sale by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  Bummer. &#160;Try the classifieds on www.saabnet.com &#160;You can place add in &lt;br /&gt; parts section . &#160;I know the site gets a ton of traffic from saabsters &lt;br /&gt; and people place adds for their wrecks to sell as parts cars. &#160;Good &lt;br /&gt; luck. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;On 20 Mar 2002 12:29:50 -0800, jaredruck...@yahoo.com (Jared Ruckle) &lt;br /&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt;was a victim of a hit and run accident recently in seattle - no &lt;br /&gt; &gt;injuries, but my 900S has a good deal of front-end body damage. &#160;long &lt;br /&gt; &gt;story short, the repairs would easily cost twice what the whole car is &lt;br /&gt; &gt;worth. &#160;so, i&#039;m looking for advice on the best way to get the most $$$ &lt;br /&gt; &gt;from my salvage. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt;the car has a new transmission (that&#039;s 2 years old) that&#039;s the most &lt;br /&gt; &gt;premium part on the car. &#160;otherwise, the engine has 200,000 miles on &lt;br /&gt; &gt;it, though there are some newer parts that might fetch a few bucks. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;any advice on how to best part this thing out? &#160;classifieds? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;junkyards? &#160;repair/body shops? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Thanks for your help, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Jared &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer. &nbsp;Try the classifieds on <a href="http://www.saabnet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saabnet.com</a> &nbsp;You can place add in <br /> parts section . &nbsp;I know the site gets a ton of traffic from saabsters <br /> and people place adds for their wrecks to sell as parts cars. &nbsp;Good <br /> luck. <br /> 
<p>On 20 Mar 2002 12:29:50 -0800, <a href="mailto:jaredruck...@yahoo.com">jaredruck&#8230;@yahoo.com</a> (Jared Ruckle) <br /> wrote:  </p>
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<p>&gt;was a victim of a hit and run accident recently in seattle &#8211; no <br /> &gt;injuries, but my 900S has a good deal of front-end body damage. &nbsp;long <br /> &gt;story short, the repairs would easily cost twice what the whole car is <br /> &gt;worth. &nbsp;so, i&#8217;m looking for advice on the best way to get the most $$$ <br /> &gt;from my salvage. <br /> 
<p>&gt;the car has a new transmission (that&#8217;s 2 years old) that&#8217;s the most <br /> &gt;premium part on the car. &nbsp;otherwise, the engine has 200,000 miles on <br /> &gt;it, though there are some newer parts that might fetch a few bucks.  </p>
<p>&gt;any advice on how to best part this thing out? &nbsp;classifieds? <br /> &gt;junkyards? &nbsp;repair/body shops?  </p>
<p>&gt;Thanks for your help,  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard start after new fuel pump install by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  Thanks for responding, Keith. &lt;br /&gt; My mechanic specializes in Saabs. Both the key and the cranking have &lt;br /&gt; improved. Now it starts in two or three times when cold. (this is &lt;br /&gt; without turning the key part way first) &lt;br /&gt; The shop that towed me does a lot of work for me too and he is ready &lt;br /&gt; to look at the whole situation. &lt;br /&gt; Liz &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&quot;KeithG&quot; &lt;no...@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;news:a7igc5$bii$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net&gt;... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Liz, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Probably not the ignition causing the extra cranking. Your fuel pump has/had &lt;br /&gt; &gt; a couple of check valves. One keeps the fuel rail pressurized even when the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; car is off. If this check valve bleeds down, the fuel rail will loose &lt;br /&gt; &gt; pressure and the fuel pump has to pressurize it again when you try to start &lt;br /&gt; &gt; it. Long story short, this is probably the culprit. Either it was &lt;br /&gt; &gt; disturbed/damaged when the pump was replaced or it was removed. The hard &lt;br /&gt; &gt; turning of the key is important to fix. If it was manhandled, it may have &lt;br /&gt; &gt; bent one of the pieces here. The towing company should pay to have it &lt;br /&gt; &gt; disassembled and inspected/lubed and any bent parts replaced. Were the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; repairs done at a shop that specializes in Saabs or a dealer? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; KeithG &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;Liz&quot; &lt;eaw...@ncia.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; news:6dda0fe4.0203201427.25e08b06@posting.google.com... &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Yesterday I had a new fuel pump put in my 93 900S (the old one died) &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; and today I noticed that it cranks about five or six times before &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; starting when cold. Once it&#039;s been running it starts in about one or &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; two times. I talked to the mechanic and he said it was the ignition &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; switch (the guy who towed it cranked my key when he was loading the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; car. It turns kind of hard now). &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Any advice? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Liz &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Keith. <br /> My mechanic specializes in Saabs. Both the key and the cranking have <br /> improved. Now it starts in two or three times when cold. (this is <br /> without turning the key part way first) <br /> The shop that towed me does a lot of work for me too and he is ready <br /> to look at the whole situation. <br /> Liz <br /> 
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<p>&quot;KeithG&quot; &lt;no&#8230;@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;news:a7igc5$bii$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net&gt;&#8230; <br /> &gt; Liz, <br /> 
<p>&gt; Probably not the ignition causing the extra cranking. Your fuel pump has/had <br /> &gt; a couple of check valves. One keeps the fuel rail pressurized even when the <br /> &gt; car is off. If this check valve bleeds down, the fuel rail will loose <br /> &gt; pressure and the fuel pump has to pressurize it again when you try to start <br /> &gt; it. Long story short, this is probably the culprit. Either it was <br /> &gt; disturbed/damaged when the pump was replaced or it was removed. The hard <br /> &gt; turning of the key is important to fix. If it was manhandled, it may have <br /> &gt; bent one of the pieces here. The towing company should pay to have it <br /> &gt; disassembled and inspected/lubed and any bent parts replaced. Were the <br /> &gt; repairs done at a shop that specializes in Saabs or a dealer?  </p>
<p>&gt; KeithG  </p>
<p>&gt; &quot;Liz&quot; &lt;eaw&#8230;@ncia.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; news:6dda0fe4.0203201427.25e08b06@posting.google.com&#8230; <br /> &gt; &gt; Hi <br /> &gt; &gt; Yesterday I had a new fuel pump put in my 93 900S (the old one died) <br /> &gt; &gt; and today I noticed that it cranks about five or six times before <br /> &gt; &gt; starting when cold. Once it&#8217;s been running it starts in about one or <br /> &gt; &gt; two times. I talked to the mechanic and he said it was the ignition <br /> &gt; &gt; switch (the guy who towed it cranked my key when he was loading the <br /> &gt; &gt; car. It turns kind of hard now). <br /> &gt; &gt; Any advice? <br /> &gt; &gt; Thanks. <br /> &gt; &gt; Liz </p>
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		<title>Comment on Hard start after new fuel pump install by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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  Liz, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Probably not the ignition causing the extra cranking. Your fuel pump has/had &lt;br /&gt; a couple of check valves. One keeps the fuel rail pressurized even when the &lt;br /&gt; car is off. If this check valve bleeds down, the fuel rail will loose &lt;br /&gt; pressure and the fuel pump has to pressurize it again when you try to start &lt;br /&gt; it. Long story short, this is probably the culprit. Either it was &lt;br /&gt; disturbed/damaged when the pump was replaced or it was removed. The hard &lt;br /&gt; turning of the key is important to fix. If it was manhandled, it may have &lt;br /&gt; bent one of the pieces here. The towing company should pay to have it &lt;br /&gt; disassembled and inspected/lubed and any bent parts replaced. Were the &lt;br /&gt; repairs done at a shop that specializes in Saabs or a dealer? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KeithG &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Liz&quot; &lt;eaw...@ncia.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:6dda0fe4.0203201427.25e08b06@posting.google.com... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Hi &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Yesterday I had a new fuel pump put in my 93 900S (the old one died) &lt;br /&gt; &gt; and today I noticed that it cranks about five or six times before &lt;br /&gt; &gt; starting when cold. Once it&#039;s been running it starts in about one or &lt;br /&gt; &gt; two times. I talked to the mechanic and he said it was the ignition &lt;br /&gt; &gt; switch (the guy who towed it cranked my key when he was loading the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; car. It turns kind of hard now). &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Any advice? &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Thanks. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Liz &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, <br /> 
<p>Probably not the ignition causing the extra cranking. Your fuel pump has/had <br /> a couple of check valves. One keeps the fuel rail pressurized even when the <br /> car is off. If this check valve bleeds down, the fuel rail will loose <br /> pressure and the fuel pump has to pressurize it again when you try to start <br /> it. Long story short, this is probably the culprit. Either it was <br /> disturbed/damaged when the pump was replaced or it was removed. The hard <br /> turning of the key is important to fix. If it was manhandled, it may have <br /> bent one of the pieces here. The towing company should pay to have it <br /> disassembled and inspected/lubed and any bent parts replaced. Were the <br /> repairs done at a shop that specializes in Saabs or a dealer?  </p>
<p>KeithG  </p>
<p>&quot;Liz&quot; &lt;eaw&#8230;@ncia.net&gt; wrote in message </p>
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<p>&gt; Hi <br /> &gt; Yesterday I had a new fuel pump put in my 93 900S (the old one died) <br /> &gt; and today I noticed that it cranks about five or six times before <br /> &gt; starting when cold. Once it&#8217;s been running it starts in about one or <br /> &gt; two times. I talked to the mechanic and he said it was the ignition <br /> &gt; switch (the guy who towed it cranked my key when he was loading the <br /> &gt; car. It turns kind of hard now). <br /> &gt; Any advice? <br /> &gt; Thanks. <br /> &gt; Liz </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;Chip Thompson wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Thanks for your reponses guys. &#160;I fixed it this evening. &#160;I still don&#039;t know &lt;br /&gt; &gt; EXACTLY what caused the problem, but I went ahead and bought a new cap and &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rotor and came home to troubleshoot. &#160;Spark from main, and also at the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; plugs, so it wasn&#039;t ignition (although for the life of me I couldn&#039;t imagine &lt;br /&gt; &gt; why the tach quit). &#160;Checked that all grounds were solid, volt meter showed &lt;br /&gt; &gt; proper voltage at all points between dist and Hall sensor and ICU. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Continuity and resistance also checked in spec. &#160;Still no start. &#160;Plug on &lt;br /&gt; &gt; dist where Hall effect doo hickey (technical term) plugs in was &lt;br /&gt; &gt; deteriorating, so I unplugged it and soldered new leads on it, plugged it &lt;br /&gt; &gt; back in, checked for continuity, and siliconed my new wiring job for water &lt;br /&gt; &gt; fastness. &#160;Still no start, so I started thinking fuel (good call, Danny). &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Shot a couple of squirts of ether in the intake, fired right up, then died &lt;br /&gt; &gt; when ether was used up. &#160;Before I siphoned 12 gallons of gas out and &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replaced the pump, I checked vacuum lines on intake and to the FPR - guess &lt;br /&gt; &gt; what, one was cracked BAAADDD. &#160;Replaced it, still no start, so I went to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the fuses, everything LOOKED okay, but I replaced the fuel pump fuse anyway, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; praying that if it wasn&#039;t that, it was at least the pump and not the relay. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Voila, car started fine, ran for 5 minutes, and I took it for a spin around &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the block. &#160;AND the tach worked. &#160;Must have been a combo fuel pump fuse / &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Hall effect sensor connection problem. &#160;Here&#039;s hoping it starts tomorrow &lt;br /&gt; &gt; morning so I can catch my 5:55 am plane to Omaha! &#160;Thanks for the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; suggestions! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Chip &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 85 900 T 16V &lt;br /&gt; &gt; 173K miles &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Glad to hear it got sorted. &#160;By the way - if you ever have to change the pump, &lt;br /&gt; you don&#039;t need to syphon the fuel out first. &#160;I did a friends car with him, fuel &lt;br /&gt; tank was full, but luckily the parts in the area are plastic - no sparks &lt;br /&gt; likely. &#160;We removed old pump assembly, found replacement pump only (much &lt;br /&gt; cheaper) installed it in the pump assembly and refitted, all with a tank almost &lt;br /&gt; full to the brim. &#160;Biggest pain was removing the large holding ring - a real &lt;br /&gt; pain, and also the pipe unions to the pump - they are a snap fit, but one &lt;br /&gt; usually breaks if you are not careful - 1 has a filter inline, and one isn&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; available separately, which can mean a fiddly job if you happen to break the &lt;br /&gt; wrong connector. &#160;I also found that removing the rear seat is a real help! &lt;br /&gt; (Saab 9000CD - saloon) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; Regards, &lt;br /&gt; Danny &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site) &lt;br /&gt; http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service) &lt;br /&gt; swap Z for above characters in email address to reply &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>Chip Thompson wrote: <br /> &gt; Thanks for your reponses guys. &nbsp;I fixed it this evening. &nbsp;I still don&#8217;t know <br /> &gt; EXACTLY what caused the problem, but I went ahead and bought a new cap and <br /> &gt; rotor and came home to troubleshoot. &nbsp;Spark from main, and also at the <br /> &gt; plugs, so it wasn&#8217;t ignition (although for the life of me I couldn&#8217;t imagine <br /> &gt; why the tach quit). &nbsp;Checked that all grounds were solid, volt meter showed <br /> &gt; proper voltage at all points between dist and Hall sensor and ICU. <br /> &gt; Continuity and resistance also checked in spec. &nbsp;Still no start. &nbsp;Plug on <br /> &gt; dist where Hall effect doo hickey (technical term) plugs in was <br /> &gt; deteriorating, so I unplugged it and soldered new leads on it, plugged it <br /> &gt; back in, checked for continuity, and siliconed my new wiring job for water <br /> &gt; fastness. &nbsp;Still no start, so I started thinking fuel (good call, Danny). <br /> &gt; Shot a couple of squirts of ether in the intake, fired right up, then died <br /> &gt; when ether was used up. &nbsp;Before I siphoned 12 gallons of gas out and <br /> &gt; replaced the pump, I checked vacuum lines on intake and to the FPR &#8211; guess <br /> &gt; what, one was cracked BAAADDD. &nbsp;Replaced it, still no start, so I went to <br /> &gt; the fuses, everything LOOKED okay, but I replaced the fuel pump fuse anyway, <br /> &gt; praying that if it wasn&#8217;t that, it was at least the pump and not the relay. <br /> &gt; Voila, car started fine, ran for 5 minutes, and I took it for a spin around <br /> &gt; the block. &nbsp;AND the tach worked. &nbsp;Must have been a combo fuel pump fuse / <br /> &gt; Hall effect sensor connection problem. &nbsp;Here&#8217;s hoping it starts tomorrow <br /> &gt; morning so I can catch my 5:55 am plane to Omaha! &nbsp;Thanks for the <br /> &gt; suggestions! <br /> 
<p>&gt; Chip <br /> &gt; 85 900 T 16V <br /> &gt; 173K miles </p>
<p>Glad to hear it got sorted. &nbsp;By the way &#8211; if you ever have to change the pump, <br /> you don&#8217;t need to syphon the fuel out first. &nbsp;I did a friends car with him, fuel <br /> tank was full, but luckily the parts in the area are plastic &#8211; no sparks <br /> likely. &nbsp;We removed old pump assembly, found replacement pump only (much <br /> cheaper) installed it in the pump assembly and refitted, all with a tank almost <br /> full to the brim. &nbsp;Biggest pain was removing the large holding ring &#8211; a real <br /> pain, and also the pipe unions to the pump &#8211; they are a snap fit, but one <br /> usually breaks if you are not careful &#8211; 1 has a filter inline, and one isn&#8217;t <br /> available separately, which can mean a fiddly job if you happen to break the <br /> wrong connector. &nbsp;I also found that removing the rear seat is a real help! <br /> (Saab 9000CD &#8211; saloon)  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> Regards, <br /> Danny  </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  &quot;Nicko&quot; &lt;hannickremovet...@btconnect.com&gt; wrote in &lt;br /&gt; news:NClm8.751$6q2.8434@NewsReader: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; I am going to need to sell my black Aug 1995 (N) CS Aero &lt;br /&gt; &gt; shortly as I have found a good deal on a 9-5 estate. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Black leather, 80,386 miles, full main dealer history. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Standard Aero spec. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Manual, automatic? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;P. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Nicko&quot; &lt;hannickremovet&#8230;@btconnect.com&gt; wrote in <br /> news:NClm8.751$6q2.8434@NewsReader: <br /> 
<p>&gt; I am going to need to sell my black Aug 1995 (N) CS Aero <br /> &gt; shortly as I have found a good deal on a 9-5 estate.  </p>
<p>&gt; Black leather, 80,386 miles, full main dealer history. <br /> &gt; Standard Aero spec. </p>
<p>Manual, automatic?  </p>
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		<title>Comment on throwout bearing? by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Bob wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; If I paid hundreds of dollars in labor and they didn&#039;t bother to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; replace a (cheap) throwout bearing, I&#039;d be mighty peeved. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I am beginning to think I should be, but the clutch has been working &lt;br /&gt; great for two years. That&#039;s why I was hoping it&#039;s simply an adjustment, &lt;br /&gt; but from the responses I take it the throwout bearing is either good or &lt;br /&gt; bad, no in between. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The whirring sound began about a month ago, only when starting from a &lt;br /&gt; dead standstill, but it seems to be getting worse. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks everyone for the feedback. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-jw &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; 1984 900 S hatchback &lt;br /&gt; Rhode Island &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>I am beginning to think I should be, but the clutch has been working <br /> great for two years. That&#8217;s why I was hoping it&#8217;s simply an adjustment, <br /> but from the responses I take it the throwout bearing is either good or <br /> bad, no in between.  </p>
<p>The whirring sound began about a month ago, only when starting from a <br /> dead standstill, but it seems to be getting worse.  </p>
<p>Thanks everyone for the feedback.  </p>
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  The following fix is a real hack, but it fixed my 80 900T for two years (10k &lt;br /&gt; miles). &#160;My throwout bearing was making noise and the clutch was good but if &lt;br /&gt; I replaced the bearing I was going to replace the clutch too, so I felt I &lt;br /&gt; had nothing to loose. &#160;I used a can of spray chain lube with a long nozzle &lt;br /&gt; to spray quite a lot of lube into the area of the throwout bearing, gaining &lt;br /&gt; access through the little inspection plug. &#160;The lube foamed and worked back &lt;br /&gt; into the bearing and fixed it for about 6 months when I repeated the &lt;br /&gt; procedure. &#160;I pointed the car downhill and had to spray more lube then I &lt;br /&gt; thought it should take but it worked until I replaced the car. &#160;The clutch &lt;br /&gt; continued to work perfectly. YMMV &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Larry &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch &lt;br /&gt; engaged &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only &lt;br /&gt; get &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#039;t happen &lt;br /&gt; &gt; every &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; time I start off. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following fix is a real hack, but it fixed my 80 900T for two years (10k <br /> miles). &nbsp;My throwout bearing was making noise and the clutch was good but if <br /> I replaced the bearing I was going to replace the clutch too, so I felt I <br /> had nothing to loose. &nbsp;I used a can of spray chain lube with a long nozzle <br /> to spray quite a lot of lube into the area of the throwout bearing, gaining <br /> access through the little inspection plug. &nbsp;The lube foamed and worked back <br /> into the bearing and fixed it for about 6 months when I repeated the <br /> procedure. &nbsp;I pointed the car downhill and had to spray more lube then I <br /> thought it should take but it worked until I replaced the car. &nbsp;The clutch <br /> continued to work perfectly. YMMV <br /> 
<p>Larry  </p>
<p>&quot;&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch <br /> engaged  </p>
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<p>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only <br /> get <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#8217;t happen <br /> &gt; every <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; time I start off. </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst...@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:3C9CB87B.BECD5BE6@earthlink.net... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&gt; Grunff wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; &quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst...@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#039;t happen &lt;br /&gt; every &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; time I start off. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &gt; No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the &lt;br /&gt; whole &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; clutch, if it is the original. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; The clutch was replaced about 20K miles ago by a local shop. The bill &lt;br /&gt; &gt; says they &quot;removed clutch assembly and machine flywheel, and installed &lt;br /&gt; &gt; new clutch assembly.&quot; Maybe they didn&#039;t change the throwout bearing... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;If they went to the trouble of machining the flywheel, I&#039;d be amazed if they &lt;br /&gt; didn&#039;t replace the throwout bearing. But you never know, unless you do it &lt;br /&gt; yourself &#160;;o) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Grunff &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Grunff wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; &gt; &quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst&#8230;@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#8217;t happen <br /> every <br /> &gt; &gt; &gt; time I start off.  </p>
<p>&gt; &gt; No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#8217;s <br /> the <br /> &gt; &gt; throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the <br /> whole <br /> &gt; &gt; clutch, if it is the original.  </p>
<p>&gt; The clutch was replaced about 20K miles ago by a local shop. The bill <br /> &gt; says they &quot;removed clutch assembly and machine flywheel, and installed <br /> &gt; new clutch assembly.&quot; Maybe they didn&#8217;t change the throwout bearing&#8230; </p>
<p>If they went to the trouble of machining the flywheel, I&#8217;d be amazed if they <br /> didn&#8217;t replace the throwout bearing. But you never know, unless you do it <br /> yourself &nbsp;;o)  </p>
<p>Grunff </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Grunff wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; &quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst...@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#039;t happen every &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt; time I start off. &lt;br /&gt; &gt; No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#039;s the &lt;br /&gt; &gt; throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the whole &lt;br /&gt; &gt; clutch, if it is the original. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The clutch was replaced about 20K miles ago by a local shop. The bill &lt;br /&gt; says they &quot;removed clutch assembly and machine flywheel, and installed &lt;br /&gt; new clutch assembly.&quot; Maybe they didn&#039;t change the throwout bearing... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-jw &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; 1984 900 S hatchback &lt;br /&gt; 150K miles &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; &quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst&#8230;@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt; &gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged <br /> &gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get <br /> &gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a <br /> &gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#8217;t happen every <br /> &gt; &gt; time I start off. <br /> &gt; No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#8217;s the <br /> &gt; throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the whole <br /> &gt; clutch, if it is the original. </p>
<p>The clutch was replaced about 20K miles ago by a local shop. The bill <br /> says they &quot;removed clutch assembly and machine flywheel, and installed <br /> new clutch assembly.&quot; Maybe they didn&#8217;t change the throwout bearing&#8230;  </p>
<p>-jw <br /> &#8212; <br /> 1984 900 S hatchback <br /> 150K miles </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;&quot;jw&quot; &lt;johnwebst...@earthlink.net&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:3C9B7F42.CDB9228C@earthlink.net... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Hi, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I inquired about this a while back, but my clutch is doing something &lt;br /&gt; &gt; different than most diagnoses I&#039;ve read on the subject of throwout &lt;br /&gt; &gt; bearings going bad. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged &lt;br /&gt; &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get &lt;br /&gt; &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a &lt;br /&gt; &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#039;t happen every &lt;br /&gt; &gt; time I start off. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; I assume this is still a throwout bearing problem, but maybe just an &lt;br /&gt; &gt; adjustment? Clutch only has about 20K miles on it. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#039;s the &lt;br /&gt; throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the whole &lt;br /&gt; clutch, if it is the original. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Grunff &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt; Hi,  </p>
<p>&gt; I inquired about this a while back, but my clutch is doing something <br /> &gt; different than most diagnoses I&#8217;ve read on the subject of throwout <br /> &gt; bearings going bad.  </p>
<p>&gt; Mine is fine at idle with clutch disengaged, and with clutch engaged <br /> &gt; fully. Works perfectly without the noise most of the time. I only get <br /> &gt; the whirring noice as clutch is engaging, starting to move from a <br /> &gt; standstill, and even then only under some load. It doesn&#8217;t happen every <br /> &gt; time I start off.  </p>
<p>&gt; I assume this is still a throwout bearing problem, but maybe just an <br /> &gt; adjustment? Clutch only has about 20K miles on it. </p>
<p>No adjustment is possible. If the clutch is noisy when disengaging, it&#8217;s the <br /> throwout bearing. Pretty simple to change. Might be worth changing the whole <br /> clutch, if it is the original.  </p>
<p>Grunff </p>
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