hi,
i was wondering what car would be the better buy.
are there any interesting differences besides shocks/struts, looks and
engine management?
i know i can tune up the 2.3 to aero-level so that should not be the point.
but im wondering if it would be better to get a full loaded 2.3 or a aero.
also since when is the 5 gear automatic availible and is it much better than
the 4 speed?
are there any horror stories about the automatic used in the 9-5 or just the
normal "i hate slurpies" stuff?
im looking for a car in the 2-3 year range with up to 60-80 k KM.
should i look out for something in particular besides black blue or white
puffs from exhaust or sounds and obvious things?
well
any advice is greatly appreciated
bye
simon putz
The five-speed auto is only available on the 2002 model, so if you’re
looking for an older car you’re out of luck.
Apart from that, the main thing to be aware of is that Auto Aero’s
have less torque than the manuals – apparently the auto-box can’t
handle so much torque. If I remember rightly the auto also lacks the
maunal’s overboost facility (where the engine gives out extra torque
for accelleration for short periods).
Hope that helps.
H.
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:05:42 +0100, "Simon Putz"
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<simon.p…@t-online.de> wrote:
>hi,
>i was wondering what car would be the better buy.
>are there any interesting differences besides shocks/struts, looks and
>engine management?
>i know i can tune up the 2.3 to aero-level so that should not be the point.
>but im wondering if it would be better to get a full loaded 2.3 or a aero.
>also since when is the 5 gear automatic availible and is it much better than
>the 4 speed?
>are there any horror stories about the automatic used in the 9-5 or just the
>normal "i hate slurpies" stuff?
>im looking for a car in the 2-3 year range with up to 60-80 k KM.
>should i look out for something in particular besides black blue or white
>puffs from exhaust or sounds and obvious things?
>well
>any advice is greatly appreciated
>bye
>simon putz
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:47 am
I think the latest Aero has the same torgque as the manual, tha latest 5 sp
auto box is supposed to be able to handle it.
Anyone confirm?
"H." <music…@waverider.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The five-speed auto is only available on the 2002 model, so if you’re
> looking for an older car you’re out of luck.
> Apart from that, the main thing to be aware of is that Auto Aero’s
> have less torque than the manuals – apparently the auto-box can’t
> handle so much torque. If I remember rightly the auto also lacks the
> maunal’s overboost facility (where the engine gives out extra torque
> for accelleration for short periods).
> Hope that helps.
> H.
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:05:42 +0100, "Simon Putz"
> <simon.p…@t-online.de> wrote:
> >hi,
> >i was wondering what car would be the better buy.
> >are there any interesting differences besides shocks/struts, looks and
> >engine management?
> >i know i can tune up the 2.3 to aero-level so that should not be the
point.
> >but im wondering if it would be better to get a full loaded 2.3 or a
aero.
> >also since when is the 5 gear automatic availible and is it much better
than
> >the 4 speed?
> >are there any horror stories about the automatic used in the 9-5 or just
the
> >normal "i hate slurpies" stuff?
> >im looking for a car in the 2-3 year range with up to 60-80 k KM.
> >should i look out for something in particular besides black blue or white
> >puffs from exhaust or sounds and obvious things?
> >well
> >any advice is greatly appreciated
> >bye
> >simon putz
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:47 am
You are right. The new 5-speed auto can handle the 350nm of torgue just
fine, but still lacks the overboost feature of manual.
JK
"Jim" <j…@nomail.thanks> wrote in message
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> I think the latest Aero has the same torgque as the manual, tha latest 5
sp
> auto box is supposed to be able to handle it.
> Anyone confirm?
> "H." <music…@waverider.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:rr899usf75d47b3r5nl369scindk5ftj0m@4ax.com…
> > The five-speed auto is only available on the 2002 model, so if you’re
> > looking for an older car you’re out of luck.
> > Apart from that, the main thing to be aware of is that Auto Aero’s
> > have less torque than the manuals – apparently the auto-box can’t
> > handle so much torque. If I remember rightly the auto also lacks the
> > maunal’s overboost facility (where the engine gives out extra torque
> > for accelleration for short periods).
> > Hope that helps.
> > H.
> > On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:05:42 +0100, "Simon Putz"
> > <simon.p…@t-online.de> wrote:
> > >hi,
> > >i was wondering what car would be the better buy.
> > >are there any interesting differences besides shocks/struts, looks and
> > >engine management?
> > >i know i can tune up the 2.3 to aero-level so that should not be the
> point.
> > >but im wondering if it would be better to get a full loaded 2.3 or a
> aero.
> > >also since when is the 5 gear automatic availible and is it much better
> than
> > >the 4 speed?
> > >are there any horror stories about the automatic used in the 9-5 or
just
> the
> > >normal "i hate slurpies" stuff?
> > >im looking for a car in the 2-3 year range with up to 60-80 k KM.
> > >should i look out for something in particular besides black blue or
white
> > >puffs from exhaust or sounds and obvious things?
> > >well
> > >any advice is greatly appreciated
> > >bye
> > >simon putz
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:47 am
hi,
thats strange, my dealer has 2 cars from 9/01 here that already have the 5sp
auto transmission.
any expierences with the 4speed one or is it better to take the manual then
if i cant get the 5sp
bye
simon putz
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:47 am
> What is strange?
> What is so strange about that? September is the time when the new models
> arrive at the dealers here in Sweden, and probably in Germany as well.
so the models of 2002 arrive around september 2001 and so on?
now i do .. thanks !
didnt know that
> The 5 speed automatic is better than the 4 speed automatic.
i thought so already, because it is more robust and cos it has 5 instead of
4 speeds it will be more economic i guess
and finer gearing. i think i will go for a manual rather then..
does around 20.000 EURO for a 2-3 year aero with around 60.000km sound ok to
you?`
bye
simon putz
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:47 am
"Jussi Ketola" <jussi.ket…@nonspam.eterra.fi> wrote in message
news:2B2l8.12106$zZ5.247066@news.kpnqwest.fi…
> You are right. The new 5-speed auto can handle the 350nm of torgue just
> fine, but still lacks the overboost feature of manual.
> JK
Mind if I ask for a link on that? I cannot find any info that states the
auto gearbox does not have the overboost feature, and in fact this link
http://www.buscentre.com.au/lifestyles/motoring/saab_aero.htm implies that
it does.
Also, I’m not sure why it would be necessary to disable it on the auto; the
Aisin AW 50-5ECT-i 5-speed auto gearbox is also used on several other cars
that make more torque than the Aero, including the Volvo S80.
Daryl
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:48 am
"Daryl Mark Krzewinski" <nob…@stratos.net> wrote in message
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> "Jussi Ketola" <jussi.ket…@nonspam.eterra.fi> wrote in message
> news:2B2l8.12106$zZ5.247066@news.kpnqwest.fi…
> > You are right. The new 5-speed auto can handle the 350nm of torgue just
> > fine, but still lacks the overboost feature of manual.
> > JK
> Mind if I ask for a link on that? I cannot find any info that states the
> auto gearbox does not have the overboost feature, and in fact this link
> http://www.buscentre.com.au/lifestyles/motoring/saab_aero.htm implies that
> it does.
> Also, I’m not sure why it would be necessary to disable it on the auto;
the
> Aisin AW 50-5ECT-i 5-speed auto gearbox is also used on several other cars
> that make more torque than the Aero, including the Volvo S80.
It so happens I have the 2002 Saab 9-5 Brochure next to my computer
UK, Page 19
"…The 2.3-litre high output turbo engine that propels the Saab 9-5 Aero
has been modified slightly, resulting in a power increase to 250 bhp. This
gives a massive 350 Nm of torque, offering acceleration throughout the rev
range.
The manual transmission model comes with an overboost function that
allows the engine to generate 370 Nm for up to 20 seconds."
Regards,
Iain
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Iain McWilliams wrote:
> "Daryl Mark Krzewinski" <nob…@stratos.net> wrote in message
> news:3c9fe997$0$1599$1dc6e903@news.corecomm.net…
> > "Jussi Ketola" <jussi.ket…@nonspam.eterra.fi> wrote in message
> > news:2B2l8.12106$zZ5.247066@news.kpnqwest.fi…
> > > You are right. The new 5-speed auto can handle the 350nm of torgue just
> > > fine, but still lacks the overboost feature of manual.
> > > JK
> > Mind if I ask for a link on that? I cannot find any info that states the
> > auto gearbox does not have the overboost feature, and in fact this link
> > http://www.buscentre.com.au/lifestyles/motoring/saab_aero.htm implies that
> > it does.
> > Also, I’m not sure why it would be necessary to disable it on the auto;
> the
> > Aisin AW 50-5ECT-i 5-speed auto gearbox is also used on several other cars
> > that make more torque than the Aero, including the Volvo S80.
> It so happens I have the 2002 Saab 9-5 Brochure next to my computer
> UK, Page 19
> "…The 2.3-litre high output turbo engine that propels the Saab 9-5 Aero
> has been modified slightly, resulting in a power increase to 250 bhp. This
> gives a massive 350 Nm of torque, offering acceleration throughout the rev
> range.
Good to know, otherwise the engine would be stuck at a particular rev count
in the middle of the rev range! Also, has Saab changed over to transmitting
the power via propulsion rather than road wheels?
Johannes
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:48 am
"Johannes H Andersen" <j…@surfanytime.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Iain McWilliams wrote:
> > "Daryl Mark Krzewinski" <nob…@stratos.net> wrote in message
> > news:3c9fe997$0$1599$1dc6e903@news.corecomm.net…
> > > "Jussi Ketola" <jussi.ket…@nonspam.eterra.fi> wrote in message
> > > news:2B2l8.12106$zZ5.247066@news.kpnqwest.fi…
> > > > You are right. The new 5-speed auto can handle the 350nm of torgue
just
> > > > fine, but still lacks the overboost feature of manual.
> > > > JK
> > > Mind if I ask for a link on that? I cannot find any info that states
the
> > > auto gearbox does not have the overboost feature, and in fact this
link
> > > http://www.buscentre.com.au/lifestyles/motoring/saab_aero.htm implies
that
> > > it does.
> > > Also, I’m not sure why it would be necessary to disable it on the
auto;
> > the
> > > Aisin AW 50-5ECT-i 5-speed auto gearbox is also used on several other
cars
> > > that make more torque than the Aero, including the Volvo S80.
> > It so happens I have the 2002 Saab 9-5 Brochure next to my computer
> > UK, Page 19
> > "…The 2.3-litre high output turbo engine that propels the Saab 9-5
Aero
> > has been modified slightly, resulting in a power increase to 250 bhp.
This
> > gives a massive 350 Nm of torque, offering acceleration throughout the
rev
> > range.
> Good to know, otherwise the engine would be stuck at a particular rev
count
> in the middle of the rev range! Also, has Saab changed over to
transmitting
> the power via propulsion rather than road wheels?
When I read your response my first thought was I had mistranscribed it and
omitted excellent or a similar adjective. However the quote is correct, it
must loose something in the translation from marketing technobabble to the
written word
Iain
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Iain McWilliams wrote:
> "Johannes H Andersen" <j…@surfanytime.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > "…The 2.3-litre high output turbo engine that propels the Saab 9-5
> Aero
> > > has been modified slightly, resulting in a power increase to 250 bhp.
> This
> > > gives a massive 350 Nm of torque, offering acceleration throughout the
> rev
> > > range.
> > Good to know, otherwise the engine would be stuck at a particular rev
> count
> > in the middle of the rev range! Also, has Saab changed over to
> transmitting
> > the power via propulsion rather than road wheels?
> When I read your response my first thought was I had mistranscribed it and
> omitted excellent or a similar adjective. However the quote is correct, it
> must loose something in the translation from marketing technobabble to the
> written word
> Iain
OK, I just thought it was amusing what those marketing gurus can come up with:
A car that accelerates throughout the rev range – wow
Johannes
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:48 am
"Iain McWilliams" <i…@duckend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> It so happens I have the 2002 Saab 9-5 Brochure next to my computer
> UK, Page 19
> "…The 2.3-litre high output turbo engine that propels the Saab 9-5 Aero
> has been modified slightly, resulting in a power increase to 250 bhp. This
> gives a massive 350 Nm of torque, offering acceleration throughout the rev
> range.
> The manual transmission model comes with an overboost function that
> allows the engine to generate 370 Nm for up to 20 seconds."
> Regards,
> Iain
Hmm, I also have the 2002 9-5 brochure here next to my PC, though it’s the
U.S. edition and makes no mention of the overboost feature one way or the
other. So, I guess it’s safe to assume yours is right, although (as I said)
I’m not sure why they did that as that tranny can take the torque.
Maybe it was just a drivability issue.
Daryl
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:48 am
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cond.
towbar,wood dash new radio cass
A/C full s pack bodykit looks and drives superb must be viewed, any
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"Major Red Eyes" <major_red_e…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:…
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> Saab 900lpt aero red k reg 1993 long mot &taxed 113k service history exel
> cond.
> towbar,wood dash new radio cass
> A/C full s pack bodykit looks and drives superb must be viewed, any
> inspection welcome .
> bargain!!! £2900 ono
> Tel 07980029691
Comment by admin — July 29, 2010 @ 11:48 am